its because the vocal minority are zealots who dont like the fact they released their apps with a open licence which doesnt abide by the “open source” rules.
From what I understand they just dont like the fact that corpos are taking advantage of the hard work of others and also hope for some kind of financial compensation:
I don’t really like their license. It somehow means that the forks are never on equal footing with the original, until all original code has been replaced. If OpenOffice.org had been under that license Oracle would have been successful at killing it, and we wouldn’t have LibreOffice. Yeah, that sucks.
They mostly stay out of politics, but what little I hear from them reeks of a brand of libertarianism that really isn’t my cup of tea.
The good:
Their software, from what I have see so far, I awesome. Their keyboard is great, Immich is great. Grayjay is… Pretty good. I have no use for Zulip but I expect that’s also great.
And to me theu really sound like they are trying to do good work, and their heart is mostly in the right place. I believe we need to be tolerant enough to be able to live with people who have slightly different politics from us. In the end it’s not like I had zero exceptions on the politics of RMS or ESR.
I thought immich is just getting some funding from FUTO only to find out now that the project has joined FUTO. But immich is still AGPL so that is good.
Their software, from what I have see so far, I awesome. Their keyboard is great, Immich is great. Grayjay is… Pretty good.
I’m on the same page. I really hate the “politics” of all this, but there’s enough good being done by their org, and the apps they put out, that I’m tolerant. Even though I have paid for a license for Futo keyboard, I’d be happy to support other projects that suit my needs.
Futo is trying to build a sustainable future for open-source, so I’m not surprised that there are disagreements with how they approach certain licensing models. My hope is that they can find the magic sauce that allows all open-source projects to remain viable in the long-term (while compensating developers in a way that doesn’t mirror the enshittifcation we see in commercial software).
You mean in general or for FUTO?
I’m wondering too. I’ve seen a lot of hating on futo without explanation but also nobody defending it either.
its because the vocal minority are zealots who dont like the fact they released their apps with a open licence which doesnt abide by the “open source” rules.
From what I understand they just dont like the fact that corpos are taking advantage of the hard work of others and also hope for some kind of financial compensation:
https://www.futo.org/about/futo-statement-on-opensource/
Heh. I have mixed feelings myself.
The bad:
I don’t really like their license. It somehow means that the forks are never on equal footing with the original, until all original code has been replaced. If OpenOffice.org had been under that license Oracle would have been successful at killing it, and we wouldn’t have LibreOffice. Yeah, that sucks.
They mostly stay out of politics, but what little I hear from them reeks of a brand of libertarianism that really isn’t my cup of tea.
The good:
Their software, from what I have see so far, I awesome. Their keyboard is great, Immich is great. Grayjay is… Pretty good. I have no use for Zulip but I expect that’s also great.
And to me theu really sound like they are trying to do good work, and their heart is mostly in the right place. I believe we need to be tolerant enough to be able to live with people who have slightly different politics from us. In the end it’s not like I had zero exceptions on the politics of RMS or ESR.
I thought immich is just getting some funding from FUTO only to find out now that the project has joined FUTO. But immich is still AGPL so that is good.
Whatever “has joined futo” even means.
In the end the devs got hired for a few years to do full-time what used to be their passion project.
I’m on the same page. I really hate the “politics” of all this, but there’s enough good being done by their org, and the apps they put out, that I’m tolerant. Even though I have paid for a license for Futo keyboard, I’d be happy to support other projects that suit my needs.
Futo is trying to build a sustainable future for open-source, so I’m not surprised that there are disagreements with how they approach certain licensing models. My hope is that they can find the magic sauce that allows all open-source projects to remain viable in the long-term (while compensating developers in a way that doesn’t mirror the enshittifcation we see in commercial software).