• seeigel@feddit.orgEnglish
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    2 days ago

    I agree, for the way our societies are structured.

    My point is that we could organize us in a way that history could provide additional depth but that the essential decisions could be made as well without the knowlege of history.

    • bane_killgrind@slrpnk.netEnglish
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      2 days ago

      That “could” is doing a lot of work for that premise. We are currently structured as an amalgam of disparate chains of systems interacting with each other in loosely defined ways.

      If you want to take the ability of sovereign entities to self determine, then sure we “could” organize in this other way.

      But we don’t have a god emperor of earth, so we will need to rely on this loose consensus instead of a dictated one.

      • seeigel@feddit.orgEnglish
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        2 days ago

        Why does it have to be dictated? People can freely organize in a democratic way.

        The problem is that people may join just because it is better, without fully supporting the respect towards others that is needed in such a system.

        • bane_killgrind@slrpnk.netEnglish
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          2 days ago

          Things don’t happen that way. “Can, may, could” means that there will be pockets of people that don’t subscribe to the ideology and undermine it.

                • bane_killgrind@slrpnk.netEnglish
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                  2 days ago

                  That’s a very uneducated take, and shows that you don’t understand how access to information can be changed, and modeled to elicit certain outcomes.

                  • seeigel@feddit.orgEnglish
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                    2 days ago

                    I was arguing that history is not needed when we have access to all experiences so we can ignore history if it is tainted.

                    You say that relying on wrong history is dangerous and in the original comment, you say that well cited information is essential.

                    There is no real contradiction but you have shown how access to information can be changed, or framed, and modeled to elicit certain outcomes.