All those illnesses are nowhere near life threatening these days. Sure, in the past when you got Tetanus, you got it from some rusty nail possibly covered by fiecies of some farm animal, then it was most likely not cleaned, not even by alcohol… Today you probably get it properly cleaned and even disinfected practically immediately.
While I also had Tetanus and other shots, I really dont consider them all that necessary these days as it was in the past. What Im however very weary is various aluminium and similar metals, especially in children vaccines. We have only studies of aluminium toxicity on rats, but those got it orally - which is a huge difference. We have no long term studies of aluminium oxides toxicity when directly injected, especially in to children…
On day 1 of life, infants receive 250 µg of aluminum from the hepatitis B vaccine, equating to ~73 µg/kg for a 3.4 kg newborn—17 times higher than the weight-adjusted PDL (~4.3 µg/kg/day).
Cumulative exposure from the CDC schedule (birth to 2 years) ranges from 4.225 to 4.925 mg, exceeding the PDL when adjusted for body weight, especially in the first 6 months (e.g., 1.475 mg by 2 months).
Infants receive ~4.4 mg of aluminum from vaccines in the first 6 months, compared to 7 mg (breast milk), 38 mg (formula), or 117 mg (soy formula) from diet, but injectable aluminum is more bioavailable and biopersistent.
And thats a huge red flag for me. Especially, if the mother is not infected by hep. B before birth, how would a child even get such a disease, which transfers by blood and body fluids, yet we vaccinate them with it at first days of life ?
You know what the first thing is a medic asks you when you come in with an open wound? He asks you when you had your last tetanus shot. If you even blink before answering that question, you have that vaccine needle in you faster than you can say “autism”.
Tetanus is deadly as hell, and even if not deadly can cause massive tissue damage. Disinfecting the wound won’t help you when the wound is deep, you can’t clean that shit more than removing debris (btw, disinfection of open wounds isn’t done in many cases, because the disinfectant damages the healthy cells that are busy healing the wound, causing longer healing times and bigger scars)
Speaking of aluminium: Do you know how little the amounts you are speaking of are? A µg is a 1/1000th part of a mg. We are not talking about fucking Sarin here, it’s aluminium which the human race gets exposed to in shittons. The first thing Aluminium as soon as it gets a chance is forming an oxide layer, making it about as reactive as my dick to a picture of Margret Thatcher naked on a cold day. The probability of aluminium in vaccines causing health effects, when taking the dosage in consideration, is negligible.
I would not consider you an expert in the field of infectious diseases, please inform yourself the next time before you speak up on this particular topic.
Even if that aluminium would be harmless, I still doesnt got a normal answer, why a day old child need a Hepatitis B. vaccine right away - its a disease transmitted sexually and by blood… Why cant you get that vaccine when you are 15y.o. for example ? There is no logical reason why an infant would need it, with the exception if the mother has it, and at that point, the child already was exposed to it and possibly creating antibodies, so vaccinate it is even more pointless.
And yes we are exposed to aluminium in our environment and food, but by digestive track you absorb less than 1%… As I added to my original post, a 2 month old child in all those vaccines receive directly in to veins a larger dose per body weight, than the official safe limit is for oral ingestion. The Aluminium in those vaccines is not an oxide, they are various salts of aluminium.
Im not an expert, I never stated that, but clearly studied more information on the topic as you or possibly most people.
If a newborn’s mother carries the hepatitis B virus in her blood, the baby must get the vaccine within 12 hours after birth.
I imagine part of the reason is timing. The vaccine is safe and effective for infants so no reason not to. Meanwhile the risk of missing one is too high, that you will get a valid test back and make the decision in time to save the infant.
There wasn’t any info on costs or reliability but it’s quite likely the test is more expensive than the vaccine and not 100%. Given the vaccine is safe and effective to use with infants, timing is critical for the ones at risk, and the test adds cost with no value perhaps it just reduces healthcare costs
Hepatitis gets transmitted through the open wound every newborn has - the umbilical cord. Yes, that’s the same wound that causes Tetanus in newborns, commonly about 7 days after birth, and it is still one of the common causes for neonatal death. But infants are still protected by the Mother against Tetanus, if she’s vaccinated (And no, previous infection does not count. You don’t die from the bacteria, you die from their toxins - same situation as with botulinum toxin)
Noone vaccinates a newborn against Tetanus; there are other ways of treatment, but they are no fun and include a long stay in intensive care, feeding a high calorie diet per IV (tube feeding is not possible), and a permanent diazepam iv drip to keep the muscle spasms - that can break bones - under control.
You know whats fine regarding salts? They dissolve when not in ubiquitous amounts (go read up on your chemistry, man). Now you just have Aluminium! This Aluminium loves to get oxygen to become inert, which it gets. Those limits are made to keep workplace environments safe and lifetime exposure low (and more a political thing than a medical).
I just looked it up, the CDC recommends 11 vaccinations in the first 2 years of life. That’s 14 diseases that cannot kill my child (and most are things that primarily kill children, that’s the reason they get them so early. Makes sense, doesn’t it?). Even if there were a tradeoff more that being a bit under the weather for a few days, it would be quite worth it.
And there is ZERO evidence for that! ZERO! Vaccinations are a thing for quite a while now, and there is still nothing there except the brainless drivel you were probably fed by “Mom Groups” on Facebook, which you mean by “studying information” and which cooked your brain and that of thousand others.
But rest assured, with Mr. Brainworm at the steering wheel in the US we will see how the child death rate will start climbing and let the glorious states look even more like a third world country regarding childhood death by preventable causes. The only sad thing here is that the price will be paid by children.
All 3 of the diseases i was vaccinated for regularly kill people and can cause severe harm even if someone survives. As I am not an idiot I would prefer to avoid that if at all possible. I opted not to get Hep B, Rabies, Dengue fever vaccinations based on a risk profile and where I was traveling but I could and would have gotten shots for those too if the risk profile were higher.
I would get that rabies shot at least. It’s incurable when symptoms start, an absolute miserable way to go, you might not even notice that you got a bat bite while sleeping, and it’s prevalent in wildlife you can’t control - and prevalent in nearly all countries except most western european states (and even there sometimes cases pop up).
I was advised by the nurse that as long as we’re within 24 hours of a major hospital (family and me) they can pump us full of antibodies and we should be fine. And also not to pet dogs, cats, monkeys etc.
All those illnesses are nowhere near life threatening these days. Sure, in the past when you got Tetanus, you got it from some rusty nail possibly covered by fiecies of some farm animal, then it was most likely not cleaned, not even by alcohol… Today you probably get it properly cleaned and even disinfected practically immediately.
While I also had Tetanus and other shots, I really dont consider them all that necessary these days as it was in the past. What Im however very weary is various aluminium and similar metals, especially in children vaccines. We have only studies of aluminium toxicity on rats, but those got it orally - which is a huge difference. We have no long term studies of aluminium oxides toxicity when directly injected, especially in to children…
And thats a huge red flag for me. Especially, if the mother is not infected by hep. B before birth, how would a child even get such a disease, which transfers by blood and body fluids, yet we vaccinate them with it at first days of life ?
You know what the first thing is a medic asks you when you come in with an open wound? He asks you when you had your last tetanus shot. If you even blink before answering that question, you have that vaccine needle in you faster than you can say “autism”.
Tetanus is deadly as hell, and even if not deadly can cause massive tissue damage. Disinfecting the wound won’t help you when the wound is deep, you can’t clean that shit more than removing debris (btw, disinfection of open wounds isn’t done in many cases, because the disinfectant damages the healthy cells that are busy healing the wound, causing longer healing times and bigger scars)
Speaking of aluminium: Do you know how little the amounts you are speaking of are? A µg is a 1/1000th part of a mg. We are not talking about fucking Sarin here, it’s aluminium which the human race gets exposed to in shittons. The first thing Aluminium as soon as it gets a chance is forming an oxide layer, making it about as reactive as my dick to a picture of Margret Thatcher naked on a cold day. The probability of aluminium in vaccines causing health effects, when taking the dosage in consideration, is negligible.
I would not consider you an expert in the field of infectious diseases, please inform yourself the next time before you speak up on this particular topic.
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Even if that aluminium would be harmless, I still doesnt got a normal answer, why a day old child need a Hepatitis B. vaccine right away - its a disease transmitted sexually and by blood… Why cant you get that vaccine when you are 15y.o. for example ? There is no logical reason why an infant would need it, with the exception if the mother has it, and at that point, the child already was exposed to it and possibly creating antibodies, so vaccinate it is even more pointless.
And yes we are exposed to aluminium in our environment and food, but by digestive track you absorb less than 1%… As I added to my original post, a 2 month old child in all those vaccines receive directly in to veins a larger dose per body weight, than the official safe limit is for oral ingestion. The Aluminium in those vaccines is not an oxide, they are various salts of aluminium.
Im not an expert, I never stated that, but clearly studied more information on the topic as you or possibly most people.
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https://kidshealth.org/en/parents/hepb-vaccine.html
I imagine part of the reason is timing. The vaccine is safe and effective for infants so no reason not to. Meanwhile the risk of missing one is too high, that you will get a valid test back and make the decision in time to save the infant.
There wasn’t any info on costs or reliability but it’s quite likely the test is more expensive than the vaccine and not 100%. Given the vaccine is safe and effective to use with infants, timing is critical for the ones at risk, and the test adds cost with no value perhaps it just reduces healthcare costs
Hepatitis gets transmitted through the open wound every newborn has - the umbilical cord. Yes, that’s the same wound that causes Tetanus in newborns, commonly about 7 days after birth, and it is still one of the common causes for neonatal death. But infants are still protected by the Mother against Tetanus, if she’s vaccinated (And no, previous infection does not count. You don’t die from the bacteria, you die from their toxins - same situation as with botulinum toxin)
Noone vaccinates a newborn against Tetanus; there are other ways of treatment, but they are no fun and include a long stay in intensive care, feeding a high calorie diet per IV (tube feeding is not possible), and a permanent diazepam iv drip to keep the muscle spasms - that can break bones - under control.
You know whats fine regarding salts? They dissolve when not in ubiquitous amounts (go read up on your chemistry, man). Now you just have Aluminium! This Aluminium loves to get oxygen to become inert, which it gets. Those limits are made to keep workplace environments safe and lifetime exposure low (and more a political thing than a medical).
I just looked it up, the CDC recommends 11 vaccinations in the first 2 years of life. That’s 14 diseases that cannot kill my child (and most are things that primarily kill children, that’s the reason they get them so early. Makes sense, doesn’t it?). Even if there were a tradeoff more that being a bit under the weather for a few days, it would be quite worth it.
And there is ZERO evidence for that! ZERO! Vaccinations are a thing for quite a while now, and there is still nothing there except the brainless drivel you were probably fed by “Mom Groups” on Facebook, which you mean by “studying information” and which cooked your brain and that of thousand others.
But rest assured, with Mr. Brainworm at the steering wheel in the US we will see how the child death rate will start climbing and let the glorious states look even more like a third world country regarding childhood death by preventable causes. The only sad thing here is that the price will be paid by children.
You are doing your own form of parody to match the original posted image yeah??? Right???
All 3 of the diseases i was vaccinated for regularly kill people and can cause severe harm even if someone survives. As I am not an idiot I would prefer to avoid that if at all possible. I opted not to get Hep B, Rabies, Dengue fever vaccinations based on a risk profile and where I was traveling but I could and would have gotten shots for those too if the risk profile were higher.
I also vaccinate my kids for the same reasons.
I would get that rabies shot at least. It’s incurable when symptoms start, an absolute miserable way to go, you might not even notice that you got a bat bite while sleeping, and it’s prevalent in wildlife you can’t control - and prevalent in nearly all countries except most western european states (and even there sometimes cases pop up).
I was advised by the nurse that as long as we’re within 24 hours of a major hospital (family and me) they can pump us full of antibodies and we should be fine. And also not to pet dogs, cats, monkeys etc.
Your choice, just know that post exposure vaccination sucks big time.