• coffinwood@discuss.tchncs.de
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      I don’t get the “launcher hate”. Yes, they’re not the most convenient, but I’m not playing in the launcher for hours.

      Currently I play moddedDragon Age Inquisition. The launch sequence is:

      Frosty Fix -> Frosty Manager -> Epic Games -> EA App -> Dragon Age.

      Takes a few seconds and I’m in the game.

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        Except everyone wants to have their own launcher and they all want to register background services that chew up resources constantly and do god knows what.

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            You can take them off of the “launch on startup” list to make them not do that, but he said they “want” to, which is true.

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              Yes, just like Discord and many other apps that are useful but annoying: You take them off autostart once.

              I don’t get why people would rather be angry all the time instead of just performing these five clicks once.

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                It doesn’t stop being an issue just because you can brush it under the rug and ignore it.

                The point is that the user shouldn’t have to work around these extra launchers. How about companies just stop pushing their own bloatware. If you buy a game through Steam, it should just require Steam. Same for GOG and all the others.

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                  I don’t claim it’s not an issue and yes I can ignore it perfectly.

                  Compared to what amount of resources most modern games require, a launcher or store app needs a tiny fraction of that. The issue is overblown IMHO.

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                    The way you downplay it sounds a lot like you’re trying to make it out as if it’s not an issue.

                    Games taking up resources doesn’t change anything I said either. Funnily enough though the same thing applies to games, users shouldn’t have to put up with games that take up unnecessary resources either. Just like they shouldn’t have to deal with bloatware launchers that take up unnecessary resources and throw more hoops to jump through.

                    Not really sure why you’re defending something that’s worse for you. What’s in it for you that you’d rather defend unnecessary launchers over not having to deal with them?

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        imagine a car company adding like another door or lock/2nd key you’d have to open/unlock every time. thats what those represent. we know the 95% of games don’t need it. now for ones like paradox interactive games that have mod playlists support and is mostly utilitarian (they do have a little banner ad space for dlc etc), hell yeah thats fine, but when their just gross multi layer ads, odd trophy points shops/weird 2nd store front that smack of walled garden ecosystem shit those can fuck right off.

        i mean im also someone who 99% of the time mod out intro/and dev splash screens to save seconds.

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            And those extra launchers take up unnecessary resources and extra steps between you and the game.

            If I buy a game on one launcher, I should only have to deal with that launcher.

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              I agree, launchers are one superfluous piece of software that require additional resources.

              Steam takes half a gig of RAM. From my 32 gigs available.

              Also around 1 or 1.5 gigs on my drive. Many games take 50 to 100 gigs.

              It’s a minor inconvenience. If one can’t afford one gig for a launcher how would a game be installed anyway?

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                It’s not just one launcher in a lot of cases. Many cases have you also run another launcher such as Ubisoft and EA games that require their launchers to run along side Steam. It all adds up and it doesn’t need to be that way nor does it need defending.

                I don’t really understand why you’re defending something thats worse for you than the alternative.

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                  I don’t defend the situation, I get along with it. Is it not possible for some people to have an issue with a product and still be able to use it?

                  Launchers aren’t perfect, not even Steam as the pack leader. But they’re a **minor inconvenience **.

                  I haven’t got a single game installed that uses nearly as few resources as all the launchers. Mass Effect LE alone is around 100 times bigger than Steam on my drive. That’s not bloatware, that’s a mini tool in comparison.

                  Curseforge/Overwolf takes less than 500 MB of RAM, when I launch Minecraft through it the game takes 20 times the amount.

                  Tell me where the problem is. If your computer can run and install the game it can do so with the launcher too. Some of us can deal with that even if it’s not a perfect situation.