That’s like saying “I’m pro-life and anti-gun control”.

Oh. Wait.

Edit: Guy confirmed that he is, indeed, pro-life and anti-gun control.

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    Given that a car is a priviledge in most (all?) of the world, I’d argue there should be absolutely zero car-only infrastructure because it creates second class citizens for which some parts of the street are inaccesible.

    Think of it this way, would you support the creation of a sidewalk in which only people who own a 50k ring can go?

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          Busses use car infrastructure, is my point. Almost all car infrastructure can be used to run busses. You can expand that to most utility vehicles too, postage trucks and garbage trucks need to get around too. There is no such thing as car-only infrastructure. Car-centric, sure, but not car-only.

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          Private jets are also a privilege, should we demolish all airports? Private schools too, should we have no education-only infrastructure?

          The issue with car-centric infrastructure is that it prioritizes expensive and inefficient systems over others. It’s the priority that’s the issue, not the existence of roads at all.

          What would car-only infrastructure even look like? A highway that busses aren’t allowed on? No utility vehicles? No firefighters?

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            Private jets are also a privilege, should we demolish all airports? Private schools too, should we have no education-only infrastructure?

            Public airports aren’t exclusive to private jets and private schools aren’t publicly funded.

            Please be more careful next time, you’re scaring all the birds.

            What would car-only infrastructure even look like?

            Every single road where pedestrians or alternative modes of transportation aren’t allowed and isn’t part of a public bus route is car-only infrastructure.

            A highway that busses aren’t allowed on?

            These exist. You are aware these exist, right?

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              Public airports aren’t exclusive to private jets and private schools aren’t publicly funded.

              Roads aren’t exclusive to cars and most of the private schools around here do receive public funding. Just because something is used poorly doesn’t mean it’s completely useless.

              Every single road where pedestrians or alternative modes of transportation aren’t allowed and isn’t part of a public bus route is car-only infrastructure.

              The only road around here that pedestrians and bicycles are explicitly barred from are the freeways, where blocking traffic is very dangerous, but busses, utility vehicles, and industrial vehicles use those all the time.

              A highway that busses aren’t allowed on?

              These exist. You are aware these exist, right?

              No, I’m not aware of public roads where it’s physically impossible to run a bus line or ride a bike. If a sedan can use it, a bike can use it. If a delivery truck can fit, so can a bus.

              I am aware of roads too dangerous to bike on and roads too sparce of destinations to run busses on, but that’s because of how roads are used, not a condemnation of roads themselves. If the city decides to add a bus route to a road, no infrastructure needs to be changed. If someone decides to send a charter bus or shuttle, the roads are open to them.