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Ok, if we balance that can we raise the age that a woman can claim the pension and also get rid of government help when a woman becomes pregnant and has a child in a hospital?

Age of consent laws are applied differently to each gender, it acknowledges differences. Age pension laws acknowledge differences in retirement age. I think we can agree open carry laws make people uncomfortable and that’s why most states and the people in them are sane enough to disagree with them. People would prefer to not know you have a gun and all the angst and discomfort that goes along with it, it’s not so much the issue of the gun itself.

It’s the same reason wokeness has become used as almost a slur. Being aware of social injustices is great when it’s based in reason. The reasoning falls apart when I am legally being forced to pretend something is something when it’s not. The trans issue is reasonable until you get a situation where someone can change their gender day to day and I now become forced to pretend. The same idea for breasts, I’m being forced to pretend like almost all women use them as sex organs regularly. It’s hard because they are multipurpose. Would you say an unerect penis is not obscene and acceptable to be shown in public and in the presence of children? Just because it’s not being used as a sex organ in the moment doesn’t mean it doesn’t still carry some significance.

Is this really true? I can’t walk around with a flamethrower even though I haven’t used it. The reason is because people don’t feel comfortable with that right?

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I didn’t know that and I agree

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Definitely not. I give no reason.

I’m not talking about me, I’m talking about humans in general. I think it’s obscene on some level for a stranger to walk around topless in front of children.

If nudism (where you are) is not deemed as indecent I completely agree there should never be a law that specifically targets women. That seems obvious. Where I am nudism or more specifically being naked in a public space is deemed as indecent.

Aren’t decency laws based on current societal norms? And age of consent laws often acknowledge a difference between genders.

Well yes. In the same context there are varying degrees of nakedness. A man only need his pants off to be able to describe him as exposing himself, you know exactly what’s going on and the rest is kind of irrelevant. Whereas with a woman you would have to specify as to whether she is exposing her genitals or breasts.

Yes but decency laws are applied purely because of the reactions they cause. If someone takes a shit down a drain on the street it’s not the littering that bothers me so much. I want there to be a law that can make that stop.

It’s not the woman’s fault that a guy gets excited

There has to be some acknowledgement that getting aroused by bare breasts is a completely normal and healthy thing. If I didn’t become aroused my gf would think there’s something wrong with me in fact a lot of women would say there’s something wrong with a man or even think they are broken if they didn’t. It’s generally accepted that the reason women modify their breasts are for purely sexual reasons and to create attraction and arousal. But arousal isn’t really the main point. The main point is a line has to be drawn somewhere that balances the generally accepted standards of decency with the individuals freedoms and the impact that freedom has on everyone else. I think current laws do a reasonable job of that. If I had kids I wouldn’t want a woman with large implanted boobs to stand in front of them on a bus for half an hour while they bounced up and down. I’m happy for the law to prevent this scenario from happening. I can acknowledge that I wouldn’t want a man with big gross man boobs to either but the difference in emotion that creates seems relevant.

But in general men and women are different in this area and there’s vastly different reactions to each scenario ie a man having his shirt off vs a woman having her shirt off

Yes but the attraction to men’s chests is based on the muscle tone usually where as women it’s the shape of the breast and further more the centre of that. I think there also an acknowledgment that women’s nipples are way more sensitive and prone to triggering arousal when touched compared to a man. These are broad generalisations but laws need to be broad and general.

Also no one’s getting excited by man boobs, generally speaking

If the rule changed as to be everyone has to cover up their chests it would become sexist to men because men don’t even have breasts.

If arousal isn’t a real thing and it’s the fault of the person being aroused, would that suggest total nudity should be ok as well?