Oh that’s interesting. These allowances and restrictions seem useful, so this labelling of Afd as what it is isn’t a nothing changes move.

Thank you for your insights.

Okay, that was strange. So Afd has now been labelled a far right extremist party, a few days after we had this discussion. Is this a sign of political will to ban them?

In addition, the party must intend to impair or eliminate the free democratic basic order. Elimination means “the abolition of at least one of the essential elements of the free democratic basic order or its replacement by another constitutional order or another system of government”.

Seems like a catch 22. They would need the party to be in power and to try and dismantle the democratic elements before they get a ban. But wouldn’t it be too late then? Because if they’re in power, what’s stopping them from reducing the courts to puppet shows? (like arguably what’s slowly happening in the US) or what happened in the 1940s.

From what I can tell (I am an outsider), the party’s manifesto seems to aim to do exactly that. Is that not a reasonable enough reason? I know they aren’t outright nazis themselves, but I’ve heard whispers and about connections to those who are openly nazis themselves. Like elon Musk who is openly a nazi.

Are the courts confident the Afd won’t pull a Nazi third reich? I wonder if the checks and balances in germany are stronger than those in other countries. In the end, it will only matter to whom the police listens to.

Banning them seems like a question of political will, instead of having the right procedure in place.

I had heard that they were going to ban the afd (some court?) . Is that not happening?