I always want symmetric licensing for community contributions. I have the same stance for Canonical and their Contribution License Agreement that also gives Canonical the exclusive rights to sell proprietary licenses.

This is a general stance I have, no matter who it is.

Valve does symmetric licensing for their SteamOS components, so there is precedent.

Also, I think you read way more into my comment than I actually meant, as if “sour taste” is the same as making demands.

TF2 is free and has been for a while now. I don’t see valve turning that around this late in the lifespan of the game.

Isn’t TF2 the last game in active development that’s still using Source 1? Dota was the first to switch to Source 2, CS switched a couple of years ago, and Deadlock is using it as well. Valve may touch up the older single player games like they did with HL1. L4D2 gets the occasional crash fix but nothing that constitutes actual development.

TF2 is geriatric

Actual open source might revitalize it.

What is it, like an SDK?

Yes, Valve released TF2’s game logic as part of the Source 1 SDK.

There are also distros without the corporate ties that Fedora has. For example, Mint and Mint Debian Edition

Both are literally corporate products by Linux Mint Ltd., registered in tax haven Ireland. They make money by setting their own affiliate IDs for web search etc. (money that would have gone to the upstream projects by default). At least Fedora has people working on the distribution that are actual contributors to the Linux stack.

Also, regular Mint is based on Ubuntu LTS. For gaming more recent versions of gaming-related components, mostly Mesa, are preferable to long term support. That’s also the reason stated by Valve why they switched to Arch as upstream for SteamOS after using Ubuntu and Debian before.

de-Googled android sounds even better.

They are already degoogled for the Chinese market. What the Chinese Android variants to not have is a shared replacement for Play Services and a shared app store because everyone is doing their own thing for maps API, payment, …

To what?

Read the article and find out.

Harmony Os will probably end up taking over realistically just due to everything going on in the world.

For Huawei but their competitors have no interest in that. Just look at the degoogled Android phones for the domestic Chinese market: Everyone ships their own app store and replacement APIs for PlayServices (not compatible to Google’s). So app developers need to target each vendor’s flavor of Android individually. It’s insane.

The logical way would be to create a joint venture for a common app store and PlayStore replacements but they don’t. Maybe this story is about exactly that but it should tell you that Xiaomi and the others have no interest in being controlled by a 3rd party.

Despite such stories are a regular occurrence, there’s still a loud part of the user base proclaiming that Proton is better than native Steam Linux Runtime V3 game ports.

This leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Because the source code is not real open source, the contributors of those fixes have fewer rights to their own code than Valve. Valve should have just made the code proper open source. Keep the art assets proprietary, basically what id Software did when they were still cool. It’s not like the Source 1 Engine contains great trade secrets after all those years since release and if it did, the non-commercial license would not keep snooping eyes away.