How about just separate cars from pedestrians and bicycles?
Freeways outside busy city areas for just cars and no pedestrians or bicycles
City centers and busy foot traffic areas for pedestrians and bicycles only.
What do you think will happen if you mix fast moving two ton iron machines in the same space as people randomly walking around everywhere or on slower moving bicycles.
In an urban core, there simply shouldn’t be any roads (ie corridors for connectivity) that need to be crossed by pedestrians or bicyclists. Instead, the densest urban areas would have only streets (ie corridors for access) with human-scale and human-speed traffic, and public transport of course. Delivery and garbage trucks would operate off-peak at night, a la New York City
If there are to be roads, they need to be fully separated, with automobiles going above or below grade. After all, cars can climb grades with ease, hence why trenched or viaduct highways make more sense than those obnoxious, towering, loud, narrow, fenced-off so-called pedestrian overpasses.
Outside of the urban core, where roads should be, there’s a better case for level crossing of pedestrian and bikes. To which point, the leading designs would be ones where so-called beg buttons are eliminated: the UK already demonstrates how automatic pedestrian and cyclist sensors work, and they have the benefit of also detecting if they finish crossing early; no need to hold road traffic longer than necessary. The Dutch have their own designs for detecting and yielding a crossing in advance of approaching cyclists.
Here in Sweden, we have plenty of excellent bicycle paths, yet even when there is a beautiful bicycle path going parallel to the big road, bikers insist on using the big road.
Ok, they have every right to use the roads just like any other vehicle, but I don’t believe that it is wrong of me to get annoyed at a biker slowly going up a steep hill at 5kmh on a road where the limit is 70kmh when there is a bike path right next to the road going the same way.
If there isn’t a bike path, then I don’t get annoyed, they don’t have a choice, but come on, if there is a bike path going parallel to the road, please use it.
Please provide an example in street view or otherwise. I’ve seen lots of people make this claim that cyclists won’t use cycle paths but every single time they provide an example it’s plainly obvious why it’s not being used. Bicycle infrastructure is frequently built to shockingly poor standards by people with a clear disdain of its users.
If people are cycling on a road, the cyclepath must be strongly perceived as lower quality. Perhaps we need to focus on why so many people who cycle a lot feel the facilities created for motorists are far better than the ones created for cyclists
Speaking as a cyclist: If I’m choosing to bike on the road with cars over using the cycletrack, then there is a problem with the cycletrack. I’d ask cyclists why they avoid it and improve that.
Off the top of my head I can think of several reasons why I sometimes choose to leave a bike lane to use the motor lanes.
How about just separate cars from pedestrians and bicycles?
Freeways outside busy city areas for just cars and no pedestrians or bicycles
City centers and busy foot traffic areas for pedestrians and bicycles only.
What do you think will happen if you mix fast moving two ton iron machines in the same space as people randomly walking around everywhere or on slower moving bicycles.
How would road crossings work? If those airbags are standard, I see it as a good thing. Subaru building bigger and heavier cars isn’t though.
In an urban core, there simply shouldn’t be any roads (ie corridors for connectivity) that need to be crossed by pedestrians or bicyclists. Instead, the densest urban areas would have only streets (ie corridors for access) with human-scale and human-speed traffic, and public transport of course. Delivery and garbage trucks would operate off-peak at night, a la New York City
If there are to be roads, they need to be fully separated, with automobiles going above or below grade. After all, cars can climb grades with ease, hence why trenched or viaduct highways make more sense than those obnoxious, towering, loud, narrow, fenced-off so-called pedestrian overpasses.
Outside of the urban core, where roads should be, there’s a better case for level crossing of pedestrian and bikes. To which point, the leading designs would be ones where so-called beg buttons are eliminated: the UK already demonstrates how automatic pedestrian and cyclist sensors work, and they have the benefit of also detecting if they finish crossing early; no need to hold road traffic longer than necessary. The Dutch have their own designs for detecting and yielding a crossing in advance of approaching cyclists.
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How about both?
Here in Sweden, we have plenty of excellent bicycle paths, yet even when there is a beautiful bicycle path going parallel to the big road, bikers insist on using the big road.
Ok, they have every right to use the roads just like any other vehicle, but I don’t believe that it is wrong of me to get annoyed at a biker slowly going up a steep hill at 5kmh on a road where the limit is 70kmh when there is a bike path right next to the road going the same way.
If there isn’t a bike path, then I don’t get annoyed, they don’t have a choice, but come on, if there is a bike path going parallel to the road, please use it.
Please provide an example in street view or otherwise. I’ve seen lots of people make this claim that cyclists won’t use cycle paths but every single time they provide an example it’s plainly obvious why it’s not being used. Bicycle infrastructure is frequently built to shockingly poor standards by people with a clear disdain of its users.
If people are cycling on a road, the cyclepath must be strongly perceived as lower quality. Perhaps we need to focus on why so many people who cycle a lot feel the facilities created for motorists are far better than the ones created for cyclists
Speaking as a cyclist: If I’m choosing to bike on the road with cars over using the cycletrack, then there is a problem with the cycletrack. I’d ask cyclists why they avoid it and improve that.
Off the top of my head I can think of several reasons why I sometimes choose to leave a bike lane to use the motor lanes.