Eventually, you’re making a new body (completely avoidable situation too!) that you’re disposing off like the result of a greasy kebab. If you don’t think this is heartless and irresponsible at the very least, then what do you think is?
I kill probably thousands of insects per day. An animal dies for roughly half of the meals I eat. The pollution from my car contributes to massive population decline among all animals near me, and slowly worsens the environment across the world. Every time I perform a single Google search, the AI engine wastes a non-neglibile amount of power that was more-than-likely generated via dirty means. Virtually every product I buy contributes to the plastic pollution in our oceans and our bodies.
Almost all of those situations are also avoidable. Are you also raging against these people for choosing actions that support the destruction of billions of billions of small animals and insects?
I’m not going to be convinced to be against removing a parasite from my body. That’s insane.
Rationalise it however you want. But you know you can’t equate these things, and as long as you’re not completely lost this will always be a thorn on your side. The mature human accepts the moral dimension of abortion, and whatever decisions and judgements they make/have made have to be seen through this lens as well (and not just amorally self-serving ‘practicality’).
The mature human accepts the moral dimension of abortion
Lol, no, sorry, get the fuck out of here with your moral absolutionist bullshit.
Removing an unthinking, unfeeling bundle of cells from my body so that it doesn’t destroy me is 100% morally and ethically fine - there is literally no issue whatsoever. It is actually no different than a man ejaculating into a sock - it is a potential life that is not yet real, and does not hold ownership of my body.
An embryo isn’t a body any more than the yolk in a egg is a chicken. It’s called an abortion cause you are aborting the process of that embryo turning into a baby, and if you wanna label that as murder, then I guess I support murder. Sanctimonious assholes like you wouldn’t lift a finger to help these unwanted kids after they are born, they are better of never living in this shit hole cruel world
You don’t even know me, all you know is that I don’t think one should stop the process and discard what would’ve been another one of us so easily and uncaringly. You disagree with that? If that doesn’t matter to you, what does? Again, I’m not American, I actually believe God demands us to be righteous and try to put it to action to the best of my abilities and ever-evolving character.
next time you’ll be blaming lonely young people for not having sex because that’s “stopping the process as God intended, and discard the possibility of what would’ve been another one of us so easily and uncaringly”.
and then you will rally against those not having sex, and for restricing their freedoms and dehumanizing them.
Yeah I doubt you actually do anything positive in this world, and if you only do good things cause you think it will make God like you, then you aren’t a good person at all. Also how do you even know there is a god, you have as much evidence for the existence of God as you do Santa clause yet you wanna ruin other people’s lives over this imaginary creature, grow up. If I was God I’d judge you to be a douchebag and would suggest you spend your life minding your own business,that’s the best thing you could do in this short meaningless existence.
Hey hey hey, I’m posting my opinion on the place you’re supposed to, just like you are. You came here to share your business and your takes on other people’s businesses!
You seem passionate and argumentative (and immature, but that might fix itself), I wish you the best in this short, meaningless existence! 😅
A kebob is made from a grown creature with more capacity for suffering than a recently conceived fetus. So if you’re willing to waste a kebab, I don’t see the problem with a voluntary abortion.
There’s no more meaning to our life than a bacterias, we are only special to ourselves, a higher life form could consider us as nothing but bacteria from their perspective.
How do you know bacteria isn’t searching for meaning, the problem with human centered thinking is that we can only define consciousness in terms of our own, cause that’s all we know and understand, doesn’t mean ours is the only way.
The basic perception here is the people you think are having abortions don’t exist. No one has abortions as birth control. Your view of the situation is so beyond real that you can’t even tell the difference between a joke and reality. You live in a bubble of hate and manipulation.
I didn’t say it’s a “common” thing nor do I believe it, because I live in this world and I know that for the vast majority of women this is a deeply traumatic experience, physically, mentally and spiritually. Of course thinking the way you think I do is wildly inaccurate to put it mildly, and I understand and share to some degree in your negative feelings towards folks who think this way, but I don’t. You’re fighting ghosts, not me, and I’d be offended by you thinking I’m that mentally challenged but I know it’s very common, especially in the West.
I’m just saying that IF this lady is one of those who are so far gone that they can casually dispose of their potential offspring and the joke about it online, she’s a horrible human being. Hopefully she’s not, and she’s just trying to make light of a horrible situation. That’s her business (that’s between her and God), sure, and this is my opinion.
I’m telling you THOSE people do not fucking exist. Commonly, uncommonly, rarely or epic drop table. They don’t exist. You are holding space in your heart for hate to a group that does not exist in reality, ready to pounce on women making a joke and accuse them of belonging to the evil group in your mind.
Eventually, you’re making a new body (completely avoidable situation too!) that you’re disposing off like the result of a greasy kebab. If you don’t think this is heartless and irresponsible at the very least, then what do you think is?
I kill probably thousands of insects per day. An animal dies for roughly half of the meals I eat. The pollution from my car contributes to massive population decline among all animals near me, and slowly worsens the environment across the world. Every time I perform a single Google search, the AI engine wastes a non-neglibile amount of power that was more-than-likely generated via dirty means. Virtually every product I buy contributes to the plastic pollution in our oceans and our bodies.
Almost all of those situations are also avoidable. Are you also raging against these people for choosing actions that support the destruction of billions of billions of small animals and insects?
I’m not going to be convinced to be against removing a parasite from my body. That’s insane.
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Rationalise it however you want. But you know you can’t equate these things, and as long as you’re not completely lost this will always be a thorn on your side. The mature human accepts the moral dimension of abortion, and whatever decisions and judgements they make/have made have to be seen through this lens as well (and not just amorally self-serving ‘practicality’).
Lol, no, sorry, get the fuck out of here with your moral absolutionist bullshit.
Removing an unthinking, unfeeling bundle of cells from my body so that it doesn’t destroy me is 100% morally and ethically fine - there is literally no issue whatsoever. It is actually no different than a man ejaculating into a sock - it is a potential life that is not yet real, and does not hold ownership of my body.
I think it’s worth pointing out their name. It might just be a novelty/troll account, so I wouldn’t get too into an argument with them.
Good luck.
An embryo isn’t a body any more than the yolk in a egg is a chicken. It’s called an abortion cause you are aborting the process of that embryo turning into a baby, and if you wanna label that as murder, then I guess I support murder. Sanctimonious assholes like you wouldn’t lift a finger to help these unwanted kids after they are born, they are better of never living in this shit hole cruel world
You don’t even know me, all you know is that I don’t think one should stop the process and discard what would’ve been another one of us so easily and uncaringly. You disagree with that? If that doesn’t matter to you, what does? Again, I’m not American, I actually believe God demands us to be righteous and try to put it to action to the best of my abilities and ever-evolving character.
next time you’ll be blaming lonely young people for not having sex because that’s “stopping the process as God intended, and discard the possibility of what would’ve been another one of us so easily and uncaringly”.
and then you will rally against those not having sex, and for restricing their freedoms and dehumanizing them.
I almost said good luck, but hell no
That’s not me but besides that and more importantly: you seem to have a good heart, and we might have just misunderstood each other. See you around!
Yeah I doubt you actually do anything positive in this world, and if you only do good things cause you think it will make God like you, then you aren’t a good person at all. Also how do you even know there is a god, you have as much evidence for the existence of God as you do Santa clause yet you wanna ruin other people’s lives over this imaginary creature, grow up. If I was God I’d judge you to be a douchebag and would suggest you spend your life minding your own business,that’s the best thing you could do in this short meaningless existence.
Hey hey hey, I’m posting my opinion on the place you’re supposed to, just like you are. You came here to share your business and your takes on other people’s businesses!
You seem passionate and argumentative (and immature, but that might fix itself), I wish you the best in this short, meaningless existence! 😅
See you on the other side, if there is one
I know you’ve got an asshole’s username and should’ve stayed on reddit
You’re not very warm, sunshine!
A kebob is made from a grown creature with more capacity for suffering than a recently conceived fetus. So if you’re willing to waste a kebab, I don’t see the problem with a voluntary abortion.
Do you also oppose handwashing since it kills other tiny critters?
Are you really equating us to bacteria? And the other guy, a kebab? Do I even have to say anything else?
There’s no more meaning to our life than a bacterias, we are only special to ourselves, a higher life form could consider us as nothing but bacteria from their perspective.
Philosophical, existential, meaning-searching “bacteria” is not the same as actual bacteria, right? Lol. But +1 for being civil!
How do you know bacteria isn’t searching for meaning, the problem with human centered thinking is that we can only define consciousness in terms of our own, cause that’s all we know and understand, doesn’t mean ours is the only way.
The basic perception here is the people you think are having abortions don’t exist. No one has abortions as birth control. Your view of the situation is so beyond real that you can’t even tell the difference between a joke and reality. You live in a bubble of hate and manipulation.
Oh, they do. More than you might think and much more than you want to accept.
You make the world a worse place
We all do. And we make it better as well. It is just a matter of the moment.
I didn’t say it’s a “common” thing nor do I believe it, because I live in this world and I know that for the vast majority of women this is a deeply traumatic experience, physically, mentally and spiritually. Of course thinking the way you think I do is wildly inaccurate to put it mildly, and I understand and share to some degree in your negative feelings towards folks who think this way, but I don’t. You’re fighting ghosts, not me, and I’d be offended by you thinking I’m that mentally challenged but I know it’s very common, especially in the West.
I’m just saying that IF this lady is one of those who are so far gone that they can casually dispose of their potential offspring and the joke about it online, she’s a horrible human being. Hopefully she’s not, and she’s just trying to make light of a horrible situation. That’s her business (that’s between her and God), sure, and this is my opinion.
IF this lady is one of THOSE.
I’m telling you THOSE people do not fucking exist. Commonly, uncommonly, rarely or epic drop table. They don’t exist. You are holding space in your heart for hate to a group that does not exist in reality, ready to pounce on women making a joke and accuse them of belonging to the evil group in your mind.
Talk about ghosts.