NoneOfUrBusiness

Sorry but I think your grandma is winning this one.

I wouldn’t move even if money wasn’t an issue personally; you have a really good arrangement there unless there’s something important you didn’t mention. You get to save money on childcare and rent and don’t have to do housework, your son gets to spend time with his grandparents (especially important given his mom is out of the picture) and your parents get to spend time with their grandson. Why would you want to change anything here?

I just picked a default wallpaper with a dark to grey color palette and made it both my wallpaper and lock screen. Wanted something easy on the eyes.

Glad you understand.

Well thanks :)

It certainly isn’t just guys that have sex or masturbate.

Of course, that’s not what I’m trying to say though. My point is that I doubt a significant fraction of girls find it desirable to, say, jack off to a picture of a guy with his shirt off, while if we ignore the ethics of it most guys would have no problem jacking off to a picture of a moderately attractive topless woman.

Obviously there are, but the objects of attraction differ. This person made my point for me so see: https://sopuli.xyz/pictrs/image/406debe5-3997-43d4-a930-abfc9cb2252b.webp

How do you live like this? Scrambled for the win my man/woman/compadre.

You think that rating somebody by hot or not does not change your view, nor anybody else’s? Teenage girls are not subject the influence of popularity, it’s only teenage boys? Teenage girls aren’t going to gossip about the dads, share pictures, jerk off to them,

Admittedly I don’t understand popularity dynamics on either sex so I can’t speak much to that, but jerk off to them? I wouldn’t think so no. I mean what’s the most sexual a non-porn picture of a man can get? Abs? Muscular thighs? There’s a lot more room for sexuality in a woman’s appearance than a man’s (and men are just hornier).

dream about being in a relationship with them,

That sounds possible, but you’d be better off asking a woman rather than speculate.

worship them, non of that?

I don’t think even guys worship hot women.

That makes it right, doesn’t it?

No, it makes it its own event worthy of consideration on its own merits, not by analogy because the analogy assumes symmetry that doesn’t exist.

I know girls are very much capable of being horny, but the magnitude differe. I can’t provide a source but I read somewhere that this is actually something trans men struggle with.

If you think teenage girls are have as much libido (and standards for jacking off material as low) as teenage guys then… Uh… No. That’s like arguing guys have boobs and we just don’t notice them. Good point on gay dudes, but those aren’t exactly a majority of the population, and in the first place according to OP the majority of students are their son’s school are girls.

You believe that Dad #1 wouldn’t be treated or viewed differently?

Yes, exactly. Why do you believe he would be?

I’m sure you wouldn’t be arguing if it was the mothers that kids were rating.

Yes, because if it was teenage dudes collecting pictures of hot moms the first thing they’d do is jack off to them. The dynamic is completely different.

If beauty pageants were shitposts? Yeah. Beauty pageants place real value (social and sometimes monetary) on external appearance, which takes them from a harmless affair to a symptom of The Patriarchy™. To quote myself from elsewhere in the thread:

The way I see it, these superficial factors need to materially impact how you treat or view a person before you go from observation to objectification, otherwise “wow this person is tall” becomes objectification which I don’t think is a productive use of the term.

If it ended with shitposting? Yeah, but obviously that’s not gonna happen. To quote myself from elsewhere in the thread:

The way I see it, these superficial factors need to materially impact how you treat or view a person before you go from observation to objectification, otherwise “wow this person is tall” becomes objectification which I don’t think is a productive use of the term.

See also: https://sopuli.xyz/pictrs/image/406debe5-3997-43d4-a930-abfc9cb2252b.webp

Many things in society aren’t symmetric between men and women.

That is the point I’m trying to make, yes. It’s just highschoolers shitposting.

See my reply to the other guy.

Well, I see objectification as looking at the surface of someone and evaluating how beneficial they could be to me, just like I would with goods in a shop

The way I see it, these superficial factors need to materially impact how you treat or view a person before you go from observation to objectification, otherwise “wow this person is tall” becomes objectification which I don’t think is a productive use of the term. With that view, I see the OP as more shitposting based on an observation than objectification since they’re (at least not explicitly) not forming views based on how hot other people’s dads are. The start of what I’d call objectification would be something like “man I wish my dad was this hot too” or “cope my dad is hotter than yours,” which do reduce the person in question to their superficial characteristics, but since there’s nothing of the sort in the OP I don’t see anyone being objectified.

Probably because it’s hard to imagine this being objectification. It’s complementing up (???) while the reverse would be “complementing” down.

Do people in authoritarian countries actually just eat the propaganda? To what extent do they believe the propaganda?

Where I come from? Not much, but part of that is because the lies are so obvious and in conflict with people’s lived experience that you can’t even delude yourself into accepting them.

I’m not sure what your problem is. Is nobody allowed to point out the failures in the Democrat campaign?