Thats true, I did not explicitly exclude those, but I think you can tell that … I am trying to mean a game that… someone would actually pay for, a game that has at least some level of popularity, general cultural impact.

Some game jam games do kind of achieve this, some are later expanded into more fully fleshed out games that later release…

But generally speaking, a game jam is more or less a speedrun tech demo of you or your team’s ability to whip up something fairly basic… and most of these do not usually go on to have any real impact or popular awareness or even a niche following that expands outside of other game devs.

Its like a training routine / job interview process for a game dev.

I am not trying to insinuate no zoomers are technically capable of making a game, of course many obviously are.

I am trying to match the context and language of the OP, referring to a much more generalized: ‘what has been the effect of zoomer game devs on the kinds of games produced by game industry broadly?’

Hey there ya go!

I didn’t know Lethal Company was made by a Zoomer.

Apparently he has been modding/making Roblox gamemodes/doing itch.io releases since he was 10!

LC isn’t exactly my cup of tea personally, but that is definitely a good example, LC has been quite popular.

Thank you for informing me =D

MBA = Megalomaniacsl Bastard Accountant

(with the fun bonus of almost no actual math required!)

Serious, genuine question:

Has a team of, or single Zoomer game dev(s) … made… any… game?

I am not gonna pretend that I somehow know all games and all game dev teams by age, but uh…

Yeah, are there any notable games made by a team that is majority composed of people born after '96 ish?

Like… I am a millenial, and I am well aware of the ludicrous greed and mismanagement of AAA studios, how even most AA studios end up getting fucked by some kind of IP rights/funding issue, if they live long enough… I’m still pissed that EA killed Maxis… and I am also well aware of many games with primarily millenial dev teams… very often devolve into, or revolve around ‘millenial speak’ / ‘millenial writing’ …

Most of us millenials, outside of the tiny number of mod teams that actually stuck together long enough to form a game studio, or just outright form an indie dev studio… yeah most of us just jumped into the megacorp game dev meat grinder and then acted both entitled and surprised to find out that ‘corporation bad, actually.’…

But I seriously cannot think of a mainly zoomer game dev team that’s made anything other than pretty much shitty asset flips and/or outright scams, enternal alpha/early access type bullshit… or maybe mobile, gacha type games?

I would love to be informed that I am an idiot and there are some really good zoomer made games, but I am ignorant of their existence.

Hell, even a seriously good mod by zoomers would count, I know I was modding many games before I even got out of highschool.

Once, it was conspciuous consumption (my personality IS what i consume, purchase, own…) along with the ‘keeping up with the joneses’ effect of feeling compelled to portray any visible signs of wealth as a sign of success… and the warping of your own personality into a caricature was more or less relegated to TV/Muisc/Movie celebrities, high profile PR people… people whose job it was to be the living embodiment of a brand.

KPop idols are that turned up to 11, and now VTubers signed with agencies basically follow the same model.

But uh… the problem is ironically the democratization of… not real ‘celebrity’, but influencer culture, being a brand ambassador, livestreaming, podcasting… OnlyFans…

Everyone is now presented with a very low cost of entry way of becoming a micro celeb.

So… either you remain authentic, and maybe get a small fan base… or you play into the algorithm, and become a cariacature of yourself, and/or outright grifter/scam artist… and yeah, better chance of making serious money, but you lose your morals/personality/soul in the process.

I was born before the internet age began, and I’ve seen these just unbelievable social changes occur in just over 20 years.

Now we’re at the point where 2/3 of Americans can’t survive missing one pay check, somewhere between 1/4 and 1/2 of people are buying groceries on some kind of credit…

Oh well, I guess.

Every single drama-slop youtuber, that exclusively covers the drama of… other unhinged youtubers, lolcows… basically all of them are vindictive, hypocritical bullies who have just found a way to bully people that is socially acceptable and makes them money.

… And usually within a year, maximum two years, of getting upwards of roughly 10k subs… they almost always become lolcows themselves.

Part of me wants to yell at you for … not understanding what kind of person a QAnon nutter who makes ghost guns is…

The other part is gonna try to just say: Yeah, I legitimately have been fairly recently diagnosed with PTSD… and I’m just gonna try to calm down.

… I haven’t talked to him in years because he is a dangerous lunatic, abusive narcissist asshole who’s fucked over my life and the lives of other people he supposedly cares abouy many times, he was already great at lying and gaslighting before Trump came along.

If I felt I needed such a weapon, I could assemble one myself.

But there’s really no point to going to all the trouble he did to avoid serial numbers… unless you actively plan on picking up a bunch of weapons charges in addition to the charges for whatever crime you committed with the gun…

… unless you are astonishingly lucky and/or good at opsec and concealing whatever you actually use the weapon for… and can successfully dump/destroy then weapon, and have a good alibi, etc etc…

He… also doesn’t seem to realize that… he still had to buy parts and assemble them… and all those parts can be traced … he wasn’t getting recievers and milling/tapping tools and shit shipped to him cross country via a cash transaction lol, he was using a card, online, and even if he was using dark web crypto markets, which I am 99.99% sure he is too computer incompetent to figure out, well those dark web markets get hacked (by the FBI/DHS/INTERPOL) and busted fairly frequently.

He’s already got a criminal record from DUIs. If he actually ever used one of those ARs for anything other than hunting animals, even legitimate self defense, he’d end up in prison.

Pfff, here, have some beans, at least you can pretend you can eat these.

You are describing most of my family.

I have degrees in Econ and Poli Sci.

I explained everything to them, how it would hurt them, in detail, for years.

Didn’t work.

I now live many states away from them, seeing as the last time I talked to my dad he was full QAnon bonkers, and also building ghost guns (untraceable AR 15s and AR 18s) in his garage.

Logic doesn’t work when too much of their personal identity is wrapped into the cult identity.

They are quite literally in a cult.

The cognitive dissonance underlying their worldview is being exposed and demonstrated, and they are very obviously unable to fully reconcile basic logic and empirical reality with the idea that dear leader is a madman, and that they are cult thralls of a madman, and that he is doing exactly what he said he would do, and that they are fools for trusting in him.

Delusional cult members do not have coherent, consistent worldviews, they are full of contradictions, which are usually squelched by thought terminating cliches, highly emotional motivated reasoning (ie, ‘faith’), having your own identity and personality be heavily intertwined with and dependant on the cult.

They would have to be deprogrammed like former Heavens Gate cult members or something similar.

Their minds will likely never function reasonably again. While some may be able to pull themselves out of it, similar to someone raised in a fundamentalist setting who deconverts via thorough critical skepticism… most of them are not capable of that, and will instead seek to blame shift to protect their own egos.

… Thats all to say, this person seemingly logically putting it together… but also not accepting their own logic?

This is quite normal for a cult member.

Lots and lots of cults do lots and lots of social conditioning to make the cult member accept or ignore or deflect from any objective criticisms.

That is basically what all religious apologetics is, after all.