• LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Hot (and irrelevant take) but I disagree. Mike Tyson was actually kinda small for a heavyweight and I don’t think any person stands a chance of knocking out a gorilla (have you seen the way their skulls are built?!). I think if any human had a slight chance it would be a huge wrestling or BJJ champion that knows how to grapple and maybe, idk, choke out a larger opponent with superior technique.

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      13 hours ago

      Hard disagree, the tendons are attached at different points then a human. This gives them a huge (mind mindbogglingly huge) strength advantage; something like 10 times stronger.

      Chimps have a similar advantage, whilst smaller than us, they are also significantly stronger.

      Human vs chimp, skill may make up for the strength disadvantage; but against a gorilla…not a chance, it would be like fighting a 5yo, sure they may have skill but nothing they could do would make up for the strength disadvantage.

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        Chimps are NOT stronger than humans, that is a common misconception. I posted a source for that somewhere else in this thread. Pound for pound they are stronger yes, but they are also significantly smaller than humans which more than balances it out. Attaching tendons differently isn’t a magic hack to increase strength; you could maybe increase torque but at the expense of travel distance of the affected joint (or vice versa).

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      1 day ago

      Nah, anyone fighting a gorilla would be ins-ta-cooked no matter how strong or skilled they are. Their skin alone is like leather. Grappling a gorilla sounds like a death sentence. The best you could hope for is they think you are trying to play with them.

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        23 hours ago

        Grappling a gorilla is such an unbelievably bad idea lmao, no matter the BJJ steez. You’re right, things are fucking tanks, just flat out invulnerable to us hand-to-hand.

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          22 hours ago

          Haha listen bro there are no good ideas against a gorilla. I’ve seen some pretty amazing grappling feats where a much much smaller person can submit their opponents… I think you physically just cannot knock out a gorilla though their skulls are too thick. Humans are uniquely vulnerable to getting KOd so I don’t think throwing punches or kicks is a valid strategy against a nonhuman

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            22 hours ago

            Yeah man we’re pretty squishy! I’d imagine an adult gorilla has to consciously try not to hurt us in physical interactions of any kind lol, like me with my own kiddos. Fairly sure just pulling off a limb would be well within their capabilities. Guaranteed death sentence, and a brutal one, no question.

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      16 hours ago

      Go search up fighters like rampage Jackson or Kevin Randleman who regularly out muscled the very best grapplers, doing things like powerbombing their way out of submissions, then think how much smaller they are than a gorilla. Grappler is just as dead as a Boxer, Muay Thai fighter, or Karateka.

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      1 day ago

      I don’t think any human from Eddie Hall, to peak era Brian shaw ,or francis ngannou would stand a chance, but I would like to see these three together try and take on a single gorilla! Perhaps give then Tom Aspinall also!!

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      23 hours ago

      The way you beat a gorilla is through brains, not brawn. I would probably stand a better chance than Mike Tyson, because I know I don’t stand a chance head-on and would try tricks instead.