• Cyrus Draegur@lemm.ee
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    13 hours ago

    Human population growth is already plateaued and in the most developed nations it’s already net negative. in order to sustain break-even (human) population levels, there must be no fewer than 2.1 offspring born, on average, per {gestational reproductive caste specimen}<irrespective of masculine or feminine configuration>.

    The human population of South Korea’s last reported birthrate is 0.78.
    In japan, 1.26.
    In the united states, 1.66.

    There will be so few able bodied humans extant to perform basic upkeep in 20 years that fundamental infrastructural systems will not JUST be crumbling to dust from sheer neglect as they are now, but actively self-destructing from sustained systemic cascade failure.

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      There will be so few able bodied humans extant to perform basic upkeep in 20 years that fundamental infrastructural systems will not JUST be crumbling to dust from sheer neglect as they are now, but actively self-destructing from sustained systemic cascade failure.

      Pretty doomerist of you. I’m honestly not concerned about declining populations. Better for the environment, and we’ll figure out the rest through straightforward economics.

      • Barbecue Cowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        I hope so too. One of the key problems you have is taking care of the elderly and infirm with less and less of the younger generation around. It’s a hard one to solve economically without being like “I guess just let them die”.

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          1 hour ago

          As the size of the working population declines, labor will reallocate itself from less necessary positions to more necessary ones. So the proportion of the population that would have worked at McDonalds, for example, would work in nursing homes instead.

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      13 hours ago

      Hence, good for everything except humans. And the global population is still rising, though as you said developed countries are responsible for very little of that growth.

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        12 hours ago

        oh yeah no i was just agreeing with you on a ‘yes-and’ basis and stuff

        the only reason any developed nation is population-positive right now is due to immigration – and now that america is cracking down on that… i wonder if we’ll actually see the population decrease soon.

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          10 hours ago

          There’s a reason Trump wants to give medals to women who have multiple kids, dangle a one-off shiny bauble as if that’ll offset the costs of having the kids.

          Australia has been giving couples $5k for their first kid for the last couple of decades, hasn’t helped and our birth rate has dropped to 1.50.