• GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    This is written by people that want to stop you getting your jollies at watching people fucking, and get their jollies at watching people being dismembered.

    One of these things is not like the other.

  • Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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    One could argue that showing cock&ball torture on a livestream is also a form of porn.

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    This is where the Overton window has shifted to. We’re now debating whether modern capital punishment is too humane for porn producers.

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    Putting aside the psychotic torture fantasies of these unhinged weirdos, could I please give perspective?

    I’m anti-pornography. I’m also a former sex worker. I don’t think that no one should consume porn, but you need to realize how horrific the porn industry truly is. It’s why I think people should consume amateur stuff, OF, and independent makers. Big name companies are abusive, full-stop. There are, of course, exceptions with smaller stuff, too, but if you knew what these women and girls AND many boys and men go through for the sake of porn, I hope you would be horrified and disgusted.

    This is not a moralistic, prude, “Christian-viewpoint”-thing. Far from it! All I’m saying is that if most of y’all can be furious & boycott N×stlé for their human rights abuse, y’all should also look into ethical porn consumption.

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      Which is a completely valid perspective, it’s stuff like this that is being posted that actually makes your perspective both be not noticed, why would it be when there is salacious and audacious takes to post and discuss but also undermines you, now some rando is going to read this and put you in this camp and automatically write you off as crazy and your ideas as immediately dismissible. The problem is that even if this is “rage bait” its existence and proliferation will silence you as a side effect, that’s the actual purpose of “rage bait”

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      This is where I am at. Sex work was dehumanizing and traumatizing. I was recorded once during an assault. There’s a lot of problematic attitudes towards sex that make the industry damaging and dangerous.

      It’s just obnoxious that loons like this are so common in anti-porn spaces.

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      I don’t have any real disagreement, but I think the problem is capitalism. The abuses in sex work are more visceral, but capitalism will create horrors for a few pennies.

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      100% OF, Chaturbate, or whatever. Only ethical way to go. The actors are fully in control of what they’re willing to do, and for how much.

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      but if you knew what these women and girls AND many boys and men go through for the sake of porn, I hope you would be horrified and disgusted

      What do they go through?

    • FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com
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      Yep

      That’s why I do what I do. I hope that people can find something they like, for free, without the exploitation

      My fiancée and I want to make educational stuff for people too

      Some troll had already said that we must be ugly because we don’t want to charge

  • Darohan@lemmy.zip
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    Hey can you put a CW on this please? Really didn’t want to read that unprepared :/

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    Folks.

    If you ever catch yourself describing how you want to torture someone to death, I want you to stop and take inventory of your priorities.

    Look. I am not a pacifist. Some motherfuckers need to be removed from positions of power by any means necessary, up to and including violence.

    That being said, should we not focus on restorative justice and rehabilitation? Why create unnecessary suffering in the process? The argument that things like the death penalty act as a deterrent doesn’t seem to be borne out in the evidence. What good is served by torturing someone, even if they’re the nastiest son of a bitch in existence?

    It is important to make sure we don’t let killing for sport seep into our ideology. Using violence against people is not something we should take pleasure in, let alone fantasize about. History has given us plenty of examples to draw from here; once you make a policy out of sadism, the group of people you use violence against only grows.

    Also, porn is fine in moderation (like everything else) and can be made totally consensually, you terminally online freaks.

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      Someone close to me was repeatedly raped by one of he neighbors from the age of 4 until she was 8. He did it to her sister and to his own daughter as well. For this the government gave him 6 years in prison. He was out before she graduated high school. She has a lifetime of shit to deal with because of his actions and I’m sure the other two do as well. There is nothing I wouldn’t do to make that motherfucker suffer. I don’t care if it’s “good” or if it deters anyone else from doing it. There’s no rehabilitation for someone like that or restoring what he took from them.

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      Something Vimes had learned as a young guard drifted up from memory. If you have to look along the shaft of an arrow from the wrong end, if a man has you entirely at his mercy, then hope like hell that man is an evil man. Because the evil like power, power over people, and they want to see you in fear. They want you to know you’re going to die. So they’ll talk. They’ll gloat.

      They’ll watch you squirm. They’ll put off the moment of murder like another man will put off a good cigar.

      So hope like hell your captor is an evil man. A good man will kill you with hardly a word.

      - Terry Pratchett, Men at Arms

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    Tumbler people need to touch grass apparently. That’s the most 4chan thing I ever read from there

  • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    there are many valid reasons to dislike porn and the industry around it, why are all anti-porn communities so fucking weird?

    between this and nofap im not sure who i want to hang around with the least honestly (and anyways these spaces are almost always filled with transphobes)

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      For real - the industry is horrific. I don’t feel comfortable with the real stuff; I don’t like not knowing if that person was treated fairly or paid what they were promised or consented to everything that happened. Zero puritanical aspect to it, zero issue with smut and drawn images.

      It’s just frustrating how the weirdos are the ones most critical of the industry. The world would be better if all porn was stuff made by eager participants who were happy and paid well.

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        Younger consumers seem to very disproportionately favor small studios and individual creators with actors who at least pretend to be enjoying themselves, so I think things are likely getting better, if maybe slowly.

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    Watching porn is nearly as much fun as making porn. I have no fucking clue what these folks are ranting about.

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      I assume the 4chan users have had to find a new base of operations, preferably with developers who actually know how to one do highly complex tasks such as install updates.

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        4chan has been up again for a while now.

        But also, people can be horrible and not be on 4chan too. Just because you like the site doesn’t mean there are no horrible people there spewing their shit.