• Steven McTowelie@lemm.ee
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    Friggin love this meme template. Why was that little boy so mad? What did he want to do that day instead of getting his pictures taken? I relate, little dude.

  • Hikuro-93@lemmy.world
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    Some people joke about Carney’s lack of a “celebrity charisma”, or being “too boring”.

    Tells you all you need to know about why the US is going through its current “historic chapter”.

    Better to have an economist learn how to be a politician, than a politician learn to be an economist. Too many countries allow themselves and their parliaments devolve into complete fish markets where the person talking the loudest, or getting the cheapest “gotcha” moment, are deemed to be “awesome”.

    Give me boring, please. “interesting times” are only good to learn about in history books, not as they happen.

  • MissJinx@lemmy.world
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    I was watching a video of an american that lives abroad saying he is trying to get a new nationality at the country he lives at, because he thinks the country, and other countries as well, may not want americans around for much longer. He said he’s afraid things may escalate. I thought that was so crazy! how fast you can go from feeling safe and privileged to suddanly feeling like you are hated by everyone. 100 DAYS!

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      Looking at quite a few reactions from other countries, a lot of them seem to want to brain drain the hell out of the US.

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        Please brain drain me, I hate this country, it is a fascist shithole doomed to repeat over and over again with endless bumper crops of naive but extremely confident libertarians and conservatives who shout down any kind of adult nuanced conversation and flip randomly between being manipulated by their own racism that they loudly and violently deny and reinventing basic things very badly while refusing to learn anything from previous people who tried the same thing.

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    The really irritating thing to me is seeing the Trumpanzees mock Canada, talking like this is the end of Canada as a country.

    No self-awareness, no realization that Trump’s policies are the direct cause of this. They can’t conceive of any way to advance their interests beyond people just abasing themselves before Trump.

  • Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
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    Sure, sure, but, if politics were sane, Carney would have been the conservative nominee and there would have been no fear of fascism.

  • Cows Look Like Maps@sh.itjust.works
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    To be fair, we basically just elected a Biden-style neoliberal who is slightly to the right of Trudeau. As affordability continues to gradually decline, our Trump (Poilievre) or a similar guy will be even more empowered. We’re basically a few years behind the USA right now and your right are actively trying to speed it up.

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      That’s why the 2-party system is so flawed. I used to be so gullible to think that if everyone keeps voting for the left party then the parties overall would sway more left in their future policies, but that is impossible in the capitalistic hellhole we live in.

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        I’m still a bit baffled it doesn’t work.

        Like, the Left not doing enough SHOULD lead the right to decide “Dang, we need a message that appeals. Let’s blame the rich, and champion power over corporations!” But…instead they blame nonsensical things, promise nothing, and appeal to hatred, and get more than one vote.

        That should just…never happen. That faction should be gonezo, making plenty of room for an independent party.

    • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
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      The liberal party should pass the electoral reform they promised so more political parties can compete on who can beat conservatives the best.

      Stopping the conservatives is the priority… right?

      The liberal party honors their promises… right?

      Electoral Reform Videos

      First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)

      Videos on alternative electoral systems

      STAR voting

      Alternative vote

      Ranked Choice voting

      Range Voting

      Single Transferable Vote

      Mixed Member Proportional representation

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    It is still a do-nothing liberal who pushes their overton window right of even Trudeau setting the stage for the same shit in Canada as the US just a few years delayed

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      Peak privilege is to demand things to be absolutely perfect and refuse to except gradual improvements.

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      It’s such a depressingly low bar to elect a gilded to the tits finance guy and pretend that’s normal.

      Carney bounced from Bank of Canada to Bank of England to UN Special Envoy focused on glad-handing petro-states in the fumbled effort to address climate change. He’s a career bag man for big business. In the vast majority of other countries would be - at best - center right.

      But in Canada, this is what passes for a normal liberal.

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    I’m not gonna congratulate Canada on not completely shitting the bed. The Canadians were going to vote in a Trump-like conservative until Trump started banging on about Canada being the 51st state. If Trump kept his mouth shut, it would have been curtains for the Liberal party.

    Canadians did not vote for the Liberals based on their record or policies, they voted to tell Trump to fuck off. The moment Trump is no longer a threat, the unity dies and everything swings back to the Conservatives, which isn’t a good thing.

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      they voted to tell Trump to fuck off.

      God, if only our voters did the same.

      But no, let’s talk about principles and genocide Joe, I’m sure that will help Gaza, that will really show them all!!!

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        Yeah, those guys are still pretty butthurt when you call them out. they just can’t get over their righteous stupidity backfiring.

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          They thought they were smarter and more moral than everyone else.

          Their arrogant ignorance led to them falling for a trick only slightly less old than “Hey, look over there!”.

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      Yeah, as someone from the shit hole to the south, I was very relieved Canada didn’t go in the populist, right wing, direction it was looking like. I am hoping the failure of the trump administration instigates a push back to the general trend right that has been going on in the west. My bigger, less likely hope, is that we can reflect on what happened and actually address the popularity of fascism.

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      I’m glad we can drop the fucking bravado and acknowledge this now. We need to in order to survive.

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      With any luck the Conservatives will split back into two parties. It’s unlikely, but the splitting of the Conservatives would be a welcome surprise.

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      Yeah it was a close election. We absolutely did not reject Trump with any consensus. There’s not as much to celebrate people think.

      What people don’t know is the Conservatives here have had a revolving door of leaders in search of a Trump-like candidate. The past several election cycles have been this way. The party has sold their soul to MAGA style politics a long time ago.

      They just had the best showing ever in this election even though it was a loss. And this is with the best Trump wannabe candidate they’ve managed to field thus far. A belligerent authoritarian-like tyrant with zero shame. They are not going to stop this any more than the Republicans would to turn back from Trump. They may even keep the current guy even though he lost his own seat.

      Canada will inevitably elect a conservative government. It’s a defacto two party system. It will all go to hell. Especially if MAGA is still ruling America at the same time.

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    Canadian conservatives are 40% of the voters. That’s already way to much. And they using the trump book more and more: lie, lie and blame the left for fucking anything, some things will sticks. Even if I’m glad he was elected to deal the american shit show, the guy is still a fucking banker who’s first action was to remove the carbon taxe. While we have to deal with the toddler from south who wants to annex us, the climate crisis wont fix itself magically.

  • peregrin5@lemm.ee
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    I already see Canadian tankies complaining about how right-wing Carney is.

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        People to the left of Liberals aren’t Tankies, but Tankies whinge that the winner is not left of Liberal. They would probably also whinge about an NDP PM. The only outcome I can see them celebrating is conservative victory. Tankies are scum of the earth.

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          The discourse on Lemmy however is a tendency to use “tankie” as some kind of othering identity marker. If I, an NDP and QS supporter, raise my hand and say “excuse me but Carney is a right wing Liberal, and I’m not comfortable with how the Overton Window has shifted to the right in Canada”, there is a clear narrative that will lump me in with the Others, right? Who by virtue of being tankies are therefore traitorous to Canada and therefore, hello, here’s the old red scare trope of “fellow travellers”, “pinkos” and “useful idiots”. Let’s not pretend that’s not the case.

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            You’re right, demanding we expand NDP while throwing the election to conservatives does make you a traitor accomplice. And regardless of figure of speech, there is no virtue among tankies. If you want to move the overton window left then remove as many conservatives from office as possible, that is the only path forward.

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              Nice imagination you got there. Do you have more things to imagine about what my political positions are, while calling me a fucking traitor?

              Some people man.

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                Consequences matter. Maybe you are full of leftwing virtue but no one sane or intelligent cares.

                Valuing your virtue over consequences makes you a threat to everyone, including yourself. You’ll sink the ship for your principles and drag everyone down with you. So yes, if it minimizes you or your group’s political influence it makes sense to call you a traitor.

                Its what got my country Trump. I now feel a visceral internal rage when anyone tells me “Democrats and Republicans are the same.” Regardless of what their actual politics are. Because I know they did not vote, they let this shit happen so they wouldn’t “dirty their hands”. I hate them. I despise them.

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                  Buddy, your political system is nothing like ours. We don’t have one all-or-nothing election. We have a Westminster system, we have a multiparty democracy, we have minority governments and the capacity for coalitions. Our supreme Court justices retire, our federalism is not broken like yours and we don’t have founding daddy issues that cripple us to blindly worshipping some 200 year old piece of paper.

                  Keep your rage your side of the border, your frame of reference does not translate to our system. Pipe down.

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      I mean the guy is a straight laced professor of economics who wrote his thesis on the advantage of competition. He’s not exactly a working class hero. However, it could have been way worse and anyone who can’t see that just needs to look at the US to find out what happens when you don’t vote for the lesser of two evils.

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            Yeah well Monopoly isn’t solidarity, it’s oppression, so fighting that is good in my book.

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              A liberal fights a monopoly by competition, so that no single capitalist gains more profits over the other capitalists.

              A socialist fights a monopoly by socializing it and making it a utility that works to meet the needs of the population, eliminating the profit motive.

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          The implication that I believe you are missing is that all humans are to some degree evil, and that goes doubly so for the type of human that finds themselves working in the world of politics.

          It’s tongue-in-cheek, and that was very well known when the phrase originally came out.

          The subtlety seems to have been lost over time.

    • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      you don’t have to be an authcom to see that carney is to the right of trudeau; he canceled the carbon tax, the capital gains tax hike, and is in favor of building more oil pipelines

      no matter who won, canada would shift to the right. all we could do is decide by how much.

      (and either way, all 3 of them - trudeau, carney and poilievre - are neolibs who support the genocide in palestine)

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      1. fuck tankies
      2. i DO think it is fair to lament that the state of the world has anyone in a place where they must strategically vote for a fucking banker to protect you from something worse
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      And if the conservative had won they all would have suddenly become optimists “the bright side is that this will weaken the western empire and accelerated the revolution of the working class!”