How is that even possible???
If he wanted to, couldn’t spez just buy it, and make it serve as a redirect to reddit? I don’t understand how SOMEONE hasn’t bought/used this domain for fediverse purposes.
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The idea there should be some definitive, canonical domain for the Fediverse is somewhat at odds with the core tenents of the Fediverse itself - decentralisation, and no single point of ownership or control. And on that basis, we absolutely should not care about a particular domain, or assign any level of ‘specialness’ to it.
I understand your worry - that some ‘bad actor’ could buy the domain and do something anti-Fediverse with it and mislead the public, but my response would be to simply not worry. The strength of the Fediverse is that we are diverse and unbothered by whatever nonsense some centralised platform is trying to pull. We don’t have a profit motive. We don’t care.
People who want to find the real Fediverse will absolutely still find us, all on their own, regardless of who owns some random domain :)
Just donate to PeerTube
fediverse.xyz is $299,888.00
I don’t think reddit would care enough to try and defend itself against lemmy. Lemmy isn’t that much of a big threat for them.
Don’t give any money to domain squatters.
send the money to lemmy devs instead of a domain.
I’d rather send it to a non-tankie platform. I regret my previous financial contributions.
internet tribalism is my faaaavourite <3
do you really need to start fights with people that are striving for the same goal, just because you have differing opinions on other things? do you think that different political parties should never work together?
my opinion is otherwise
Right now the political parties in the USA are one side, who are filled with actual nazis, and then on the other side is everybody else.
This from an administration who already ran a sucsessful 2016 campaign based on the ideas of racism, which ended in the preventable deaths of over 1 million people. Yes, covid played a part, but the administration at the time downplayed covid’s seriousness. Thus enabling roughly half the country to treat it as a political issue rather than a deadly disease. And trump, behind closed doors, knowing a tape recorder was on, fully admitted to embracing covid with the belief that it would kill more leftists (since they live in the city and more densely compacted) than it would right wingers (since they live in isolated farms).
And people, willingly voted for him in 2 more elections. He didn’t win 2020, but it’s not like it was a landslide.
Roughly half the country are nazi supporters. They wanted this.
And you ask if we should work with opposing parties? Maybe in more sane times, when the issues on the line are things like communications acts, or tax reform. But not now. Not when the agenda is “burn all those who oppose us”.
How are you that sure they’re striving for the same goal when their actions point to favouring authoracies and silencing opposition?
have the code they’ve written successfully aided them in doing that?
Piefed :)
Isn’t that somewhat the point of the federated system? Prevent censorship? Enable various points of view to have a platform? It’s somewhat up to the moderators of the groups and the community as a whole to determine what information is allowed on their local platforms.
On the internet, almost without fail, a few bad apples exist. And sometimes the bad apples really yell the loudest.
But not having an algorithm amplifying the bad apples is about the best we can hope for now.
Software works regardless of their political posturing. Your baker might be a nazi as well.
There’s a difference between knowing my baker is a nazi and being unaware of it. It’s morally wrong to be knowingly supporting a nazi, whether it’s by buying their product or by donating to them directly doesn’t matter.
It’s true that bread stays bread regardless of the baker’s political stance. But it’s not like the nazi baker is the only one in town. Just get your bread from a different baker. Bread is bread. The point of alternatives is that you can pick your source, whom you want to support. And that’s what OP is suggesting.
knowingly supporting a nazi
First, criteria for what one considers a nazi are open to interpretation and nowadays the bar is ridiculously low. We have a bicycle kitchen cooperative in Croatia where almost all of us volunteers hold leftist views, but there’s an occasional boomer known to say problematic stuff as a shitty joke, or a grandma shows up with her son’s bicycle that has one of the many Croatian totenkopf variants which the kid put up using same protocol as Marge with a potato. We never refuse to help them. I also engaged some of them in conversation and when you get down to the bottom of their exclusionary views you often find they’re decent people with good moral compass and the stupid jokes or totenkopf stickers are adopted wholesale through the media or because of a personal tragedy.
Just get your bread from a different baker.
Sure, the free market will fix it, very American thinking. Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease. Croatia is a good example because our fight for independence in the 90s saw the attempted rehabilitation of actual nazis from the 40s as freedom fighters and Croatian patriots, which means that (still, nowadays) whenever boomers have a celebration with alcohol, there’ll be some singing about the superlative exploits of actual nazis. It’s just the way our society currently is, it’s still our society. The only way to change that is to engage with them and show them you hold a different opinion and are still a relatable human being. I have a feeling most lemmy users would just cancel their entire family if they were Croatian.
If you knowingly patronise a nazi bakery, that’s fine?
If you knowingly patronise a nazi bakery, that’s fine?
I live in Croatia, I certainly buy bread from some nazis unless it’s a franchise bakery that these days employ mostly SEA immigrants. The beliefs of the person selling me bread or writing code I’m using don’t come into play at all, that’s what I’m saying. The left is practically falling apart because of principled children who’d cancel anyone for their beliefs.
You say “knowingly patronise”, I say “buy some bread”. Grownups recognize that we live in a society and people hold different opinions. How can you be sure there are no nazis feeding you, clothing you, transporting you? Especially with the ever-widening scope of that term, it’s on the verge of making no sense, being a catch-all term for stuff people don’t like. Instead of engaging others and finding common ground, people are behaving like kids, completely blocking others out for any documented slight.
We’re talking about choosing who to financially support. Catloaf doesn’t want to knowingly send money to support tankies. I’m not sure what your nazi baker comment was supposed to communicate, but I wouldn’t patronise a nazi bakery. Are you saying you would? It’s obvious that nobody knows the provenance of everything they buy, but only you are bringing that up and I don’t see the relevance.
Hey only @ml and @hexbear are tankie right? World and ee aren’t tankie are they?
Then kindly use something else.
I assume you’ll delete your Lemmy account and move to another platform soon then?
Only one of you is on the lemmy devs Tankie instance, and it isn’t catloaf
By using Lemmy at all and growing the community you’re increasing the reliance in these tankie developers. So when will you delete your account and move to another platform?
If I’d have to cut off all ties to things more or less closely associated with negative things (eg. tankies, fascists) I’d just have to kill myself. Which I very nearly did and what’s probably the best option, in any case.
Dude… What
The .org seems to require a log in. I wonder what entity has these domains. I imagine the folks working to manifest the fediverse don’t have the capacity to buy up all the possible domains.
It also doesn’t even make sense to buy up all the possible domains. It would just be a waste of money, and surely someone could come up with a domain name that you didn’t think of (fediverse-network.com).
How much is it?
I’ll give them $20 Final offer
Lol, that’s insane. I hope everybody saves their money for better things.
Holy shit. Fuck that.
What a ridiculous price.
You get free business cards with it. For 500k you get free business cards. Still got pay extra for the rest though what a rip off.
You have to fill out a form to inquire about price. So I don’t know.
someone should start a fundraiser so we can buy it
you’d probably be better off setting up your own domain server and trying to get that working
I think there are better things to do with $500k than throw it all away for a useless domain name, like distribute it to the people who maintain fediverse software and host instances.
Nooo we can’t do that because I don’t 100% align with the beliefs of lemmys devs so I’d rather see the project go broke
You forgot the /s
Unironically the mindset of guys like cm002.
